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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Almost Perfect Business Model</title> <atom:link href="http://wpcandy.com/uncategorized/the-almost-perfect-business-model/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=the-almost-perfect-business-model</link> <description>A blog all about WordPress. Yes, we&#039;re a bit meta.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:20:12 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Catsandbeer.com</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2232</link> <dc:creator>Catsandbeer.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 06:46:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2232</guid> <description>looks like it turned out to be the perfect business model: get people to sign up for a year membership then sell your site and not end up following through with the product promised - genius!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like it turned out to be the perfect business model: get people to sign up for a year membership then sell your site and not end up following through with the product promised &#8211; genius!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rice Blogger</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2231</link> <dc:creator>Rice Blogger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:03:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2231</guid> <description>I guess he could use the list to introduce more different wp-plugins or other premium theme to monitize on this..</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess he could use the list to introduce more different wp-plugins or other premium theme to monitize on this..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Magnus</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2230</link> <dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:53:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2230</guid> <description>He had a $70 theme himself if you didn&#039;t know... why would he be out to get premium theme developers including himself?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He had a $70 theme himself if you didn&#8217;t know&#8230; why would he be out to get premium theme developers including himself?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jermayn Parker</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2229</link> <dc:creator>Jermayn Parker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:13:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2229</guid> <description>SP only created the $5 theme to get back at the Premium theme developers who charge $80+</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SP only created the $5 theme to get back at the Premium theme developers who charge $80+</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DameryWorld</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2228</link> <dc:creator>DameryWorld</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:15:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2228</guid> <description>Here are my 2 cents:
1) $7,000 is not a business and is barley a hobbie. However selling a $7,000 hobbie for $65,000.00 now thats business!
2) If you love to create themes then it really not work and making a $.10 is awesome.I like to hack together web site function, however I am short on time and therefore my style takes the brunt of lackiness.
Sure I can create a WP theme with hidden widget areas and I can create any kind of widget interface so you can have anything from Google gadgets to zoho database forms.
Who would pay for such tweaking? Is there really a market with so many free tools out there?
I think the pleasure is going to be more with the artists who love to create and play on the NET.
Like myself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are my 2 cents:<br
/> 1) $7,000 is not a business and is barley a hobbie. However selling a $7,000 hobbie for $65,000.00 now thats business!<br
/> 2) If you love to create themes then it really not work and making a $.10 is awesome.</p><p>I like to hack together web site function, however I am short on time and therefore my style takes the brunt of lackiness.<br
/> Sure I can create a WP theme with hidden widget areas and I can create any kind of widget interface so you can have anything from Google gadgets to zoho database forms.<br
/> Who would pay for such tweaking? Is there really a market with so many free tools out there?<br
/> I think the pleasure is going to be more with the artists who love to create and play on the NET.<br
/> Like myself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Epic Alex :: Web Design</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2227</link> <dc:creator>Epic Alex :: Web Design</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:31:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2227</guid> <description>&quot;the plethora of free alternatives that will be just as good for the user base&quot;You have a point, when you look at free themes like &lt;a href=&quot;http://5thirtyone.com/archives/886&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Unstandard Theme&lt;/a&gt;, why would you need to pay anything for themes like it, unless the designers/coders being &#039;brought in&#039; are going to be creating similar &#039;outside the box&#039; themes.I&#039;m interested to see you the business model can be expanded, and also if it can ever now succeed having had such a set back.Alex</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the plethora of free alternatives that will be just as good for the user base&#8221;</p><p>You have a point, when you look at free themes like <a
href="http://5thirtyone.com/archives/886" rel="nofollow">The Unstandard Theme</a>, why would you need to pay anything for themes like it, unless the designers/coders being &#8216;brought in&#8217; are going to be creating similar &#8216;outside the box&#8217; themes.</p><p>I&#8217;m interested to see you the business model can be expanded, and also if it can ever now succeed having had such a set back.</p><p>Alex</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christina Warren</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2226</link> <dc:creator>Christina Warren</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:39:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2226</guid> <description>I paid $5 on a lark -- as I&#039;ve said elsewhere, it&#039;s $5 I&#039;m pretty sure I wasted, but then, my coffee this morning was $5 so I don&#039;t really care all that much. It&#039;s not that I doubt the quality of the themes (and future themes, assuming we see them), it&#039;s that I doubt I will ever use those themes for anything.For me, the biggest con is in fact the low price and right now the ratio of subsidized free memberships to actual paying members is about 4:1 right now. That&#039;s not encouraging from a support perspective (because how invested are people who signed up for a free membership -- I forget about 90% of the free stuff I sign up for a week after I sign-up), so the potential community support/involvement is already greatly depreciated.Not only that, $5 is almost too low of a price point to be taken seriously -- I mean, I did it because I thought I liked one of the themes in demo better than I actually liked it. And because $5. That said, if you look at the Joomla theme club market -- like Rocket Theme -- the pricing is higher, but the theme quality is exponentially better (and part of that is because Joomla is just better for theming than WordPress, it just is), the featureset is far more advanced and the support is far better because the price can afford the actual designers to be involved -- and not just volunteer users on a forum.I&#039;ve seriously considered switching to Joomla for an upcoming project just because of their theming engine and some of the Joomla premium themes, and I hated Mambo way back when. My biggest criticism of pretty much every premium theme available for WordPress, theme club or otherwise, is that they look downright amateurish compared to other platforms. The truly revolutionary WordPress design is being done by individuals who aren&#039;t hawking themes but building them for themselves or for individual clients.If the quality and variety of the WPDesigner club doesn&#039;t improve, even at $5 it will fail because of the plethora of free alternatives that will be just as good for the user base (and that user base is largely dictated by price -- price higher, for a club, you can attract the attention of more serious users).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid $5 on a lark &#8212; as I&#8217;ve said elsewhere, it&#8217;s $5 I&#8217;m pretty sure I wasted, but then, my coffee this morning was $5 so I don&#8217;t really care all that much. It&#8217;s not that I doubt the quality of the themes (and future themes, assuming we see them), it&#8217;s that I doubt I will ever use those themes for anything.</p><p>For me, the biggest con is in fact the low price and right now the ratio of subsidized free memberships to actual paying members is about 4:1 right now. That&#8217;s not encouraging from a support perspective (because how invested are people who signed up for a free membership &#8212; I forget about 90% of the free stuff I sign up for a week after I sign-up), so the potential community support/involvement is already greatly depreciated.</p><p>Not only that, $5 is almost too low of a price point to be taken seriously &#8212; I mean, I did it because I thought I liked one of the themes in demo better than I actually liked it. And because $5. That said, if you look at the Joomla theme club market &#8212; like Rocket Theme &#8212; the pricing is higher, but the theme quality is exponentially better (and part of that is because Joomla is just better for theming than WordPress, it just is), the featureset is far more advanced and the support is far better because the price can afford the actual designers to be involved &#8212; and not just volunteer users on a forum.</p><p>I&#8217;ve seriously considered switching to Joomla for an upcoming project just because of their theming engine and some of the Joomla premium themes, and I hated Mambo way back when. My biggest criticism of pretty much every premium theme available for WordPress, theme club or otherwise, is that they look downright amateurish compared to other platforms. The truly revolutionary WordPress design is being done by individuals who aren&#8217;t hawking themes but building them for themselves or for individual clients.</p><p>If the quality and variety of the WPDesigner club doesn&#8217;t improve, even at $5 it will fail because of the plethora of free alternatives that will be just as good for the user base (and that user base is largely dictated by price &#8212; price higher, for a club, you can attract the attention of more serious users).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeffro2pt0</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2225</link> <dc:creator>Jeffro2pt0</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:58:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2225</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;@Hafiz&lt;/strong&gt; Yes, it is true that a large number of those users are ones who got in via a free coupon code. But on the flipside, what he was really doing with those coupon codes was building the support base for this themes. Thats why I thought the free coupon code move was genius.&lt;strong&gt;@zinni&lt;/strong&gt; Sure, that is indeed a con. But you wouldn&#039;t be able to use a unique theme if they were all free, that would just mean even more people would be using the themes garnishing even less of a chance that you&#039;ll be unique. Of course, you could limit who buys the theme by charging $100.00 for it but I think the price is too steep for mass adoption.&lt;strong&gt;@Magnus&lt;/strong&gt; Ok, 400 of the 1320 members are paying, but after 1 year who is to say that the rest of the member base purchases a 1 year account because they have been impressed with what they have received through the club. And let&#039;s be realistic. $5.00 is cheap enough where I believe people would spend the cash on the theme club just for the hell of it, to see what they would get. But, all aspects of the theme club begin to be successful only after a very large number of people become part of the club.&lt;strong&gt;@Joshua&lt;/strong&gt; I write things the way I think them, if that makes any sense. Thanks for pointing that out. I&#039;ll try to get Michael to fix that grammatical error. As for Pawel Ciszewski, all one needs to do is check out the commenting section of his introduction post and you can see the trend of poo pooing the new owner before he has really had a chance to get started.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Hafiz</strong> Yes, it is true that a large number of those users are ones who got in via a free coupon code. But on the flipside, what he was really doing with those coupon codes was building the support base for this themes. Thats why I thought the free coupon code move was genius.</p><p><strong>@zinni</strong> Sure, that is indeed a con. But you wouldn&#8217;t be able to use a unique theme if they were all free, that would just mean even more people would be using the themes garnishing even less of a chance that you&#8217;ll be unique. Of course, you could limit who buys the theme by charging $100.00 for it but I think the price is too steep for mass adoption.</p><p><strong>@Magnus</strong> Ok, 400 of the 1320 members are paying, but after 1 year who is to say that the rest of the member base purchases a 1 year account because they have been impressed with what they have received through the club. And let&#8217;s be realistic. $5.00 is cheap enough where I believe people would spend the cash on the theme club just for the hell of it, to see what they would get. But, all aspects of the theme club begin to be successful only after a very large number of people become part of the club.</p><p><strong>@Joshua</strong> I write things the way I think them, if that makes any sense. Thanks for pointing that out. I&#8217;ll try to get Michael to fix that grammatical error. As for Pawel Ciszewski, all one needs to do is check out the commenting section of his introduction post and you can see the trend of poo pooing the new owner before he has really had a chance to get started.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joshua Goodwin</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2224</link> <dc:creator>Joshua Goodwin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:36:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2224</guid> <description>&quot;Dove&quot;? Shouldn&#039;t that be &quot;dived&quot;?Made-up words aside, this is a good article. I personally think that premium themes are a bit of a rip-off but then again, the £5 themes club seems different. I too feel that the arrival of Pawel Ciszewski could be its downfall though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dove&#8221;? Shouldn&#8217;t that be &#8220;dived&#8221;?</p><p>Made-up words aside, this is a good article. I personally think that premium themes are a bit of a rip-off but then again, the £5 themes club seems different. I too feel that the arrival of Pawel Ciszewski could be its downfall though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Epic Alex :: Web Design</title><link>http://wpcandy.com/reports/the-almost-perfect-business-model#comment-2223</link> <dc:creator>Epic Alex :: Web Design</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:36:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://wpcandy.com/?p=420#comment-2223</guid> <description>I paid for a membership on the first day, not because I wanted to use any of the themes (I always design my own), but because I&#039;ve worked with SP&#039;s free themes before, and I&#039;ve found that they are coded very well, and I felt I could learn from him.SP was such a friendly guy too, despite the sometimes &#039;aggressive&#039; and personal posts he made. I had occasional personal email contact with him, as I solved an issue on a theme and added some functionality to another, and he was always willing to give back.I feel that the WordPress community will miss him greatly, despite what some comments say on his blog at the moment.My problem with WPDesigner at the moment is that nothing is being posted, not even updates as to what is going on behind the scenes.I still check the feed everyday, waiting for a post of similar quality and insight into WordPress as I used to read.I hope the themes club carries on, its a great resource.Alex</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid for a membership on the first day, not because I wanted to use any of the themes (I always design my own), but because I&#8217;ve worked with SP&#8217;s free themes before, and I&#8217;ve found that they are coded very well, and I felt I could learn from him.</p><p>SP was such a friendly guy too, despite the sometimes &#8216;aggressive&#8217; and personal posts he made. I had occasional personal email contact with him, as I solved an issue on a theme and added some functionality to another, and he was always willing to give back.</p><p>I feel that the WordPress community will miss him greatly, despite what some comments say on his blog at the moment.</p><p>My problem with WPDesigner at the moment is that nothing is being posted, not even updates as to what is going on behind the scenes.</p><p>I still check the feed everyday, waiting for a post of similar quality and insight into WordPress as I used to read.</p><p>I hope the themes club carries on, its a great resource.</p><p>Alex</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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